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  • willwin
    07-11 11:13 AM
    Yeah I am EB3 India June 2003 too. Not sure when our turn will come, IF at all the way things are crawling here. Sometimes I really feel there is no justice to some of the IV members on here. I wonder which is worse, the corruption in India or the bureaucracy in the USA. Atleast in India, if I would have bribed the official, I would have had the documents by now.

    eb3_nepa!

    People here think EB3 deserves to be waiting (in the given scenario and only EB2 move forward). After all we are not EB2!

    2003? another 2-3 years easily. I am only 2005. So may be another 5 years for me. Well, what the heck




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  • Alien
    03-12 10:31 PM
    Its not a rumor. This is real. Coming to think abt it, he had filed a labor in 2000/2001 time period and had abandoned it when he switched companies. I am wondering if USCIS takes the oldest one an applicant had ever filed.




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  • Junky
    09-10 08:07 AM
    Damn :mad:, I can't believe that USCIS will going to waste visa numbers again. Therefore friends please call congressmen to support HR5882.



    Elton Gallegly (R-Calif.)202- 225-5811
    Darrell Issa (R-Calif.)202- 225-3906 (NOT IN FAVOR)
    Dan Lungren (R-Calif.)202- 225-5716
    Brad Sherman (D-Calif.) 202-225-5911
    Adam B. Schiff (D-Calif.)202- 225-4176
    Rick Boucher (D-Va.) 202-225-3861
    Robert C. Scott (D-Va.) (202) 225-8351
    Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.)202- 225-5431
    J. Randy Forbes (R-Va.)202- 225-6365
    Tom Feeney (R-Fla.) 202-225-2706
    Ric Keller (R-Fla.)202- 225-2176
    Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) 202-225-3035
    Lamar S. Smith (R-Texas), Ranking Member 202- 225-6906/ 202- 225-4236
    Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) 202-225-2676
    Betty Sutton (D-Ohio) 202-225-3401
    Chris Cannon (R-Utah)202- 225-7751
    Steve Chabot (R-Ohio) 202-225-2216
    Howard Coble (R-N.C.) 202-225-3065
    Steve Cohen (D-Tenn.)202- 225-3265
    John Conyers (D-Mich.), Chairman 202-225-5126
    William D. Delahunt (D-Mass.)202- 225-3111
    Keith Ellison (D-Minn.) 202-225-4755
    Trent Franks (R-Ariz.)202- 225-4576
    Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.)202- 225-8203
    Steve King (R-Iowa)202- 225-4426 (NOT IN FAVOR)
    Mike Pence (R-Ind.) 202-225-3021
    Howard L. Berman (D-Calif.) 202-225-4695
    Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) 202-225-7931 (IN FAVOR - Reported by IV member new_horizon)
    Tammy Baldwin (D-Wis.) 202- 225-2906 (IN FAVOR - Reported by IV members cnag & Prashant)
    Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) 202-225-2201 (IN FAVOR - Reported by IV member little_willy)
    Anthony D. Weiner (D-N.Y.) 202-225-6616 (IN FAVOR - Reported by IV member punjabi77)
    Robert Wexler (D-Fla.) 202-225-3001 (IN FAVOR - Reported by IV member punjabi77)
    Hank Johnson (D-Ga.) 202-225-1605 (IN FAVOR - Reported by IV member punjabi77)
    Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.)202- 225-3072 (ALREADY SPONSOR DO NOT CALL)
    Jim Sensenbrenner (R-Wis.) 202-225-5101 (ALREADY COSPONSOR DO NOT CALL)
    Linda Sanchez (D-Calif.) 202-225-6676 (ALREADY COSPONSOR DO NOT CALL)
    Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.) 202-225-5635 (ALREADY COSPONSOR DO NOT CALL)
    Artur Davis (D-Ala.) 202-225-2665 (ALREADY COSPONSOR DO NOT CALL)
    Sheila Jackson-Lee (D-Texas)202- 225-3816 (ALREADY COSPONSOR DO NOT CALL)
    Melvin L. Watt (D-N.C.)202- 225-1510 (ALREADY COSPONSOR DO NOT CALL)


    Data available in Mumbai consulate website

    http://mumbai.usconsulate.gov/cut_off_dates.html

    Category India Most Other Countries
    F1 15 April 2002 15 April 2002
    FX 1 May 2001 1 May 2001
    F2A 1 January 2004 1 January 2004
    F2B 15 December 1999 15 December 1999
    F3 22 June 2000 22 June 2000
    F4 22 May 1997 22 October 1997
    E1 Current Current
    E2 1 April 2003 Current
    E3 1 July 2001 1 January 2005
    EW 1 Janurary 2003 1 Janurary 2003
    E4 Current Current
    E4-Religious Current Current




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  • Jimi_Hendrix
    11-11 01:08 AM
    We are 7 in all now and growing:)



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  • asanghi
    04-30 02:31 PM
    Is there audio?

    No audio. Just deafening silence (deafening because of high level of background noise). I thought they aren't saying anything.




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  • villamonte6100
    04-01 02:19 PM
    Who brought you to this country ? Do you have any kind of formal education or not ?? You don't understand the concept of Public office... USCIS is a public office they are answerable to public, taxpayers like me and others(I'm not sure about you). If each of us thought that way than we wouldn't be here, we have changed several things in the past and will continue our efforts to do so in the future, and BTW what are you doing here, get the H.O. of here...

    Mirage,

    I think what Dard-E-Disco is pointing out is that, we are foreigners (Not citizens of the USA), therefore our rights are not the same as a US citizen.

    We could create rallies, voice our concerns on this forum, write letters to congressmen and senators, etc etc etc, and that is fine, but we don't have any right to really ask particularly USCIS about their internal workings. I would assume that even US citizens are able to do what you are saying. There are certain levels of confidentiality specially in government that they will never share with anyone.

    I think the same is true in your country.

    How would you think people in you country or governmnet would react if a foreigner start to question your immigation policy.

    Think about that.



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  • saimrathi
    08-10 01:19 PM
    What are you smoking?? Its Aug 10 today..

    Diluted drinks wont help you - Have " straight up "...

    Its August 12th today and we are really screwed




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  • GCwaitforever
    04-02 11:59 AM
    I don't know what to tell you guys.. I'm surprised to see how some people's thought process work.
    I have no Idea what's wrong in requesting USCIS to release some data which would tell how many applications they received of which chargeability and in which EB categories’ This is the only information needed to stop predicting, everybody here can make almost exact estimate when they can expect their application Adjudicated. And also in the mean time they should provide us assurance that they will issue EADs and APs in less than 90 days. We are in a foreign country and we need to travel to our home countries, if we are stuck with 1 year approvals our file is always in process, how do you plan a trip ???
    Death in the family is the only reason they recognize as urgency for travel.
    We are Humans, we have family back in our home countries, marriage in the family or family visit is also urgent..
    To ask this you don’t need citizen rights you are asking a public agency a service which they are supposed to provide and they are charging us to do that...

    The problem is paper-based application process of USCIS. They spend lots of time opening up mail and sorting out the applications. Sometimes, information is not all in one place or misplaced. Also USCIS emloyees have vested interest in continuing the status quo. If everything is filed electronically, you would see layoffs in USCIS.

    Also they have other issues to deal with. There is a rush of naturalization applications last year. Similarly when crop season comes, they tend to agricultural workers visas. In these cases, staff is diverted from one paper mount to other. After getting the GC, let us apply for positions in DOL/USCIS and bring some positive process change internally.



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  • 485Mbe4001
    01-04 01:13 PM
    We have meetings every thursday at 7pm, you can join in if you want, i am from irvine too. i can send you the details let me know, if you and roktamurty are interested.

    Hi Jimmi,
    Count me in as well. I live in Irvine.... Great effort.... Lets get this rolling...
    Regards,
    Smarteey




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  • vdlrao
    06-10 10:56 AM
    The July 2008 Visa Bulletin has said Exactly the same, but in different words, what I have been saying for the past few months about the EB2-India and EB3-India Movements.

    EB2 India will move very fast till 01 JAN 06 as because based on June 2007 bulletin, just before the july fiasco,( http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_3236.html ) the PD for China is 01 JAN 06. That means in EB2 Category except India and China every other country is current. So till India reaches 01 JAN 06 PD in EB2, all the spill overs will be moved to EB2 India,because the spill overs will be alloted based on the priority of old PD(Priority Date). By the time India EB2 reaches 01 JAN 06, China PD in EB2 will move further from 01 JAN 06 by using its 7% quota. So Inidia PD for EB2 again moves fast till that changed China PD using the spill overs. After that India and China will share the spill overs based on the PD priority. All this happens if and only if the USCIS works effectively and uses all the available visa numbers for the present fiscal year. My prediction for EB2 India PD is it touch 2005 /even cross few months in 2005 by the end of this year if USCIS works effectively.


    For all Eb3s along with EB2s with PD after April 2005, the movement in the coming visa bulletins wont be much encoraging unless the new Obama government does something significant about employent based category or immigrationvoice does a fruitful lobbying. The doings of something by obama government to employment based category is not in our hands. The only thing we could do is to help IV and help ourrselves by contributing to it to reach its financial target for better lobbying. Or else wait for the Visa Bulletin every month with great hopes, sorry dreams, for your PD to become current, and satisfy with your EADs for years ahead.



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  • eb3_nepa
    07-15 07:49 PM
    Good job people,

    However we are falling short of the $2000 target for today. Will we make it, or will we let ourselves down?

    Remember everyone BUT us immigrants wants us to fail. The anti-immigrants are WELL funded lobby. They ask for help from their members and they get a TON of it. All we ask on IV's behalf is $5.00 for now.




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  • mango_man
    06-11 08:59 PM
    ek dozen kitne mein girega mere bhai ?

    how much for a dozen my friend...lol :D

    If I buy mangoes from you, can you get me a green card ?

    I am not selling mangoes. I am just asking you to eat it. I cant believe that you are so desperate to get green card that you will even buy mangoes to get it.

    You guys need to have more sex. You will be a little less desperate in life.



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  • ash0210
    06-02 05:24 PM
    As per USCIS, childrens are aged out after they becomes 21 and their I-485 could be rejected.

    However, your child is safe, if I-140 of primary beneficiery is aproved & you have filed I-485 of your child. Age of child is calculated as - Date on his/her I-485 filed minus period/time required for I-140 approval. e.g. when you filed childs I-485, age of child was 19 and your I-140 approval took say 8 months then your childs age is "locked" at 18 years 3 months. I was in a same situation but my child turn out to be safe as I filed his I-485 immediatly after PD become current. Couple of months back I received letter from USCIS that my son is safe though he become 21.

    In a situation like I-140 & I-485 is NOT filed for Primary beneficiary becomes tricky as uncertinity of I-140 approval and then PD to become current to file I-485 and to calculate "Lock out" age for the child.

    Best way is file I-140 file immediatly & file I-485 for child immediatly if PD is current.

    Pl be advised to consult your immigration lawyer...

    Hi my son is going to turn 21 on June 6th, we had applied for EB3 labor certificate on in July and the priority date is july 19, 2005. The I-140 was applied and approved in a month, therefore he will turn 21 next month on the 6th because the subtraction of one month from his age due to delay by USCIS in processing the I-140. My question is that is there any sort of help for EB retrogression for the children affected, and may get aged-out. As well as any other way that my son can apply for his I-485.
    Thanks




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  • 485Mbe4001
    08-15 11:50 AM
    True, once the people realize that they are close to GC they forget all tasks and move on to the other forums (R2I or USC or whatever) there are very few who actually stay on and help add this to the fact that most of the EB3-I's got fed up with the nonsense going on (most were only looking for a sounding board to voice their dismay, instead they were reminded of the caste system). So EB2's stop working because their PD is current and EBs stop because there is little hope/chance/help. We can dissect the VB as much as we want, the fact of the matter is that EB3 as a whole and EB3 (india &China) in particular are screwed big time. There is hope in the Logfren bills but the congress seems to have other 'important' issues to discuss.

    We should take the campaign to a new level move from individuals to involving groups and compaines. They have more money and power to make things move. EB3 & EB2 discussions will go on for ever, we can either decide to wallow in our sorrow or do something. Lets identify groups who can help us and write to them. Each EB should talk to his/her HR and ask them to write a letter to their congressman/Senator it will have a bigger impact.

    What are your thoughts?


    actually people are already complacent ..eb2 is in joy and waiting impatiently, eb3 people have given up hope and there is not much news from core. people may not like my post but that is the fact



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  • chanduv23
    07-11 12:01 PM
    I am not sure if I should be happy or sad with this news. I was laidoff recently and had applied for I-485 on July 17,2007 i.e. current processing date for TSC. Also with this bulletin I will be current (EB2 2006). I have not found a new job yet and my company has told me that they will be revoking my I-140 after 30 days. My company lawyers are not advising me much citing conflict of interest.

    What options do I have? Will sending a new G-28 form at this time raise any issues that I do not have job with original employer as my PD is current and it is quite possible that my case maybe adjudicated. In the meantime if I do not sent new G-28 form I am not sure how much my company attorney will co-operate

    Saileshdude - relax. Get a job ASAP. PM me your phone number and I will call you




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  • singhsa3
    09-12 01:37 PM
    At least I won't give u red dots if you can enlighten us how to get us out of this mess. And yes, we do want our green card so I don't think we can stop the process or stop spending money on that. Also please advise us how to bring all 70K people under one umbrella?
    I dont mind getting Red Dots, But please, for god's sake. Stop doing this fruitless campaign. Do you guys think Giving a Clock or sending flowers solved earlier problems. Enough of this Gandhiian ways. This country is not good for people like Gandhi. May be Flower campaign got noticed and created a whole new experience for the USCIS, but i dont think it really helped them do anything in our favor. Already, folks here are wasting their money, year after year, on their EADs and APs for them and their family. Just think for a second guys, It costs us 1000 $ to maintain status on AOS and visit our family and this is going on indefinitely for our years now. USCIS/Congress does not want to do anything about this, They are happy to get the revenue. Even if you think a minimum of 200,000 people spending 1000 $ an year, it is 200,000,000 $. Iam not even considering the amount they spent on other things like H1B extension, H4s..... Just think about the Dollars they are making on this Green Card SCAM. Accept it or not, it is indirectly affecting our lives, even though, GC is not really important for lot of folks. Iam one such person, I have a good client and a decent employer and iam with the same folks for 9 years and they are happy extending my H1b at their cost. But still, this whole GC game, is sometimes disturbing. They are playing with our emotions and our loved ones. So, GUYS we need to take a bigger and bolder step. To me, Calling people, sending flowers and letters explaining the situation makes no sense. Do you think, those guys dont really know about our situation. Let us a make a bold move. We are 70,000 folks just here in ImmigrationVoice. Let us compile a letter,that pushes USCIS/Congress on improving the condition. As long as they get those EXTRA Dollars, i dont think anything is going to happen. Even if they remove the provision to apply for GC while on H1B, it is good for us, for we will know that in advance and can plan on shaping our future better, instead of this false promise and emotional torture. I think even AILA or other Lawyers are useless. They dont want to do anything for us. All they do is, interpret the LAW , and explain us in the way we can understand. They dont take steps to fight for the justice. All they care is the money. So let us make our point clear to USCIS, we dont want to waste money on EADs and APs and H1B extensions. To me, it should be free of cost, since it is their problem that they dont work efficiently. Why should we pay 1000s of dollars for their inefficiency. let us all 70,000 work together in sending a letter to USCIS or Congress that We are not willing to spend any more money on the GC knowing that we are not going to get it anyway. Unless, we do something like this, the real impact of our situation will never get noticed. Again, our main aim should be to let them know about our situation and not just that IV is a group that will send flowers, to express its presence.



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  • TheGreatMan
    07-20 11:10 AM
    Anybody have a link to the text of amendment. Are we sure, it had any text related to us ?




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  • go_guy123
    02-25 01:38 PM
    It is easy and potentially justifiable to feel some frustration. As it relates to the green card, I am in a similar situation to most who visit and share their views on this board.

    I view the Universe and everything that is contained therein to be perfect - there can be no imperfections. I find comfort in that thought and focus my attention on the following:

    feeling grateful for all that I have; doing my work to the best of my ability; taking the risks I believe I should take; being resilient; enjoying my life more; being patient; caring more; comparing less

    This is merely a statement of my beliefs - this works for me. It is not intended to offend anyone nor is it a solution to anyone's woes.

    Good times, health, and happiness to all.

    You are relatively at peace because your PD is 2005 and you are in EB2.
    Moreover since you are already filed 485 and its more than 6 months you are secure.
    For rest the situation is precarious




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  • gc28262
    08-08 08:30 AM
    Since we are trying to address I-140 delays in general at TSC and NSC, can we just send a general letter to Ombudsman's office without specifying our case and DHS Form 7001 ?

    This way it will turn out to be a letter campaign.

    What do you think ?




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    03-04 01:45 PM
    I have an RFE on my 485 (EB3 I SEP 2004 )....




    Jimi_Hendrix
    11-20 09:49 PM
    Got legal immigration?

    Joe Adams holds on to his coffee cup while he anxiously reads the immigration news headlines on Google. The democrats have just won control in Washington and like all immigrants; Joe is hopeful that some immigration reform will emerge.

    Joe, a native of United Kingdom first came to the United States in 1998. After graduating from Harvard Business School with an MBA he got his dream job in supply chain management. It was not long after that Joe’s company filed for his permanent residency. Life moved on and soon Joe and his wife Kathy had their first child. “The year was 2003” reminisces Joe, “I was really beginning to understand the U.S. immigration process. I was getting a handle on the numerous loops that lay ahead. It was soon apparent to me that immigration was no walk in the garden”.

    Of the 940,000 legal immigrants in 2004, only 16% were skilled employment-based immigrants. About 40% of these skilled immigrants had advanced degrees, or 5 or more years of experience after a baccalaureate degree. The impact of these workers’ contributions to American competitiveness belies their small number. They add to the process of scientific discovery, technology development, and innovation, which in turn leads to greater productivity growth. Current immigration policy is abetting brain drain and forcing many of these immigrants to leave for countries like Canada and United Kingdom where skilled immigrants are given priority over undocumented and family-based immigrants.

    Legal Immigration, Rewarding?
    “Most importantly legal immigration has to be rewarding for legal residents and create a shining example for all other immigrants”, remarks Joe Adams. In the United States, all immigration reform for highly skilled immigrants is bundled with reform for undocumented workers. This phenomenon is representative of the apathy of U.S. immigration policy towards highly skilled legal immigrants. Many of them have advanced degrees in science and technology. They have trained and honed their skills while working in U.S. companies.
    Currently permanent residency applications for skilled, employment based immigrants are backed 5-8 years. In the interim applicants are unable to change jobs, get promotions or make any major financial decisions. Highly skilled, legal immigrants need immigration reforms that will reduce massive process backlogs, improve processing by government agencies and better the quality of life while the application is pending.

    Legal Immigration Myths
    Extremist, anti-immigration advocacy groups have aggressively publicized myths about legal, skilled immigrants. Let us expound some of the common myths about employment based immigration.
    Myth: Increasing green cards will enable more new immigrants to enter the country
    Fact: Most immigrants who are caught in the employment-based immigration backlog have already spent 5-10 years in the United States. They have integrated socially and culturally. Companies have spent thousands of dollars on training these workers.

    Myth: Employment based immigrants do not pay taxes and are a social burden
    Fact: Employment based immigrants are required by law to file for federal and state tax returns each year. They pay social security taxes, medicare taxes, payroll taxes and all other applicable taxes. Employment based immigrants are not eligible to receive social security benefits unless their permanent residency applications are approved or unless they have worked in the U.S. for several years.
    Myth: Employment based immigrants take away local jobs
    Fact: Most progressive Americans realize that educated immigrant workers play a crucial role in stimulating the local economy. Highly skilled immigration fills the gaps in availability and makes the U.S. economy competitive and resilient. A recent study concludes that immigrants have fueled the US entrepreneurial economy, starting one in four venture-backed companies since 1990 and two in five in high technology. This is according to a study released by the National Venture Capital Association trade group to the U.S. Congress in November 2006.

    Myth: H1B quota increase will result in more green cards
    Fact: H1B has a separate quota from green card quotas. Even after an individual has approved security check, labor certification and employment eligibility; a visa number must be available for him to receive a green card. This quota is subject to annual numerical limits. Based on the current annual visa limit, applications are backlogged 6 years.

    Future of Legal Immigration
    It is presumed that legal immigration process works efficiently and in a clockwork fashion. However when you consider that legal applicants have to wait 5-8 years for a green card; this statement is false. In the current political environment pro and anti immigrant extremism exist side by side. A rational, middle of the road approach is largely missing. Such an approach would prioritize immigration based on the contribution of immigrants towards economic growth, the reduction of job outsourcing and most importantly rewarding those who chose to enter and continue to reside legally in USA.
    Americans largely supports legal immigration. This year, the Secure Knowledge, Innovation and Leadership Bill was introduced in Senate and in the House of Representatives. This bill provides the much needed immigration reforms for highly skilled immigrants. However the democrat leadership has not yet declared immigration on their agenda for the first 100 hours of work. Unless congress collectively passes immigration relief for skilled workers, political considerations for the 2008 presidential elections will put this issue on the back burner again.



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