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  • lonedesi
    06-21 11:22 AM
    Guys, please continue to leave voice messages, emailing & faxing those idiots at Atlanta PERM center who moved the staff to do other work like processing h2b cases. We need to be persistent if we need any positive outcome. Would those idiots who reassigned staff to do other work, now turn around and help us be reassigining more staff to clear the backlogs? We need to keep questioning them and bombard them with emails, fax and phone calls. It is very important that we act now, if not you all know how delicate of situation we are all finding ourselves in. Please call/email/fax everyone at Atlanta DOL, DOL secratary Elaine Chao and also Assistant Secretary Emily Stover DeRocco.

    Contact Details:
    The Honorable Elaine L. Chao
    Secretary of U.S. Department of Labor
    200 Constitution Ave., NW
    Washington, DC 20210

    Elaine Chao's email is: secretaryelainechao@dol.gov
    Phone number: 202-693-6000
    Fax number for Office of the Secretary: 202-693-6111
    ------------------------------------------------------

    U.S. Department of Labor
    Employment and Training Administration
    Harris Tower
    233 Peachtree Street, Suite 410
    Atlanta, Georgia 30303
    Phone: (404) 893-0101
    Fax: (404) 893-4642
    Email1: PLC.Atlanta@dol.gov
    Email2: Perm.DFLC@dol.gov

    ------------------------------------------------------

    Key personnel at ETA
    Assistant Secretary Emily Stover DeRocco (202) 693-2700
    Deputy Assistant Secretary Douglas F. Small
    Deputy Assistant Secretary Mason Bishop (202) 693-2700
    Email: etapagemaster@dol.gov




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  • chanduv23
    05-18 03:39 PM
    ANOTHER UPDATE

    I just spoke to Congressional office and this is what she has to say:

    Quote"""""""""""

    I just spoke with our liaison at the Nebraska office and she confirmed that your motion to reopen was approved on Friday (05/15/2009). That, I am told, means Nebraska agrees to re-examine your I-485 denial and a decision should be forthcoming within 60 days. I suggest that we wait to see what that decision is before our office initiates any formal inquiries with the USCIS Nebraska Director.

    """"""""""""""Unquote

    But she agreed that my second MTR might have been on sidelines and the congressional office inquiry into the matter could have influenced USCIS to review my case ( probably with a supervisor) immediately. She told me that she would put another inquiry with NSC in 4 weeks if nothing comes up. Finally we have decided to forgo (just for now) the process of writing letter to the NSC Director as it might not add much weight to the process, as congressional office would be repeating the same argument that my Attorney has made regarding the AC21, which a supervisor is already looking at.

    I have already waited for 3 months. Another 2 months might take its toll on my emotional drain.

    God save AC21............

    That is a standard message. Basically yur 485 has been reopened. Unless your priority date is current there is nothing much they can do, but if there is a need for RFE, they will send you RFE.

    Congratulations. This is a standard message your case has been reopened. You must celebrate this moment.

    Unless your MTR is approved, your case does not get reopened. So your MTR is also approved - usually they do not update those messages on the online system properly and thats why we do not see them.




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  • dontcareanymore
    03-13 02:10 PM
    How does that work? There is no law or process to connect an abandoned labor. I had approved labor with a PD of 1999 that got lost when I switched companies. But no one seems to be connecting that to me.

    You can use that priority date if I140 was filed for you based on that and approved. Was I140 filed for you ? Or you just abandoned it while labor was pending ?? If the later, your employer must have made money when labor substitution was allowed :) (Making a BIG assumption here )




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  • Jimi_Hendrix
    11-08 07:02 PM
    California U.S. House results by county
    Alameda - District 9 100.0% of 548 precincts reporting

    Candidate Party Vote Count % Votes Cast
    Barbara Lee (I)
    Dem 117,157 85.6%
    John den Dulk
    GOP 15,647 11.4%
    James Eyer Lib 4,001 2.9%
    Updated: 11/8/2006 7:43 PM ET

    Alameda - District 10 100.0% of 88 precincts reporting

    Candidate Party Vote Count % Votes Cast
    Ellen Tauscher (I)
    Dem 12,005 60.6%
    Darcy Linn
    GOP 7,792 39.4%
    Updated: 11/8/2006 7:43 PM ET

    Alameda - District 11 100.0% of 99 precincts reporting

    Candidate Party Vote Count % Votes Cast
    Jerry McNerney
    Dem 15,385 62.2%
    Richard Pombo (I)
    GOP 9,348 37.8%
    Updated: 11/8/2006 7:43 PM ET

    Alameda - District 13 100.0% of 484 precincts reporting

    Candidate Party Vote Count % Votes Cast
    Fortney Stark (I)
    Dem 83,777 74.2%
    George Bruno
    GOP 29,127 25.8%
    Updated: 11/8/2006 7:43 PM ET

    Alpine - District 3 100.0% of 5 precincts reporting

    Candidate Party Vote Count % Votes Cast
    Bill Durston
    Dem 258 49.8%
    Dan Lungren (I)
    GOP 243 46.9%
    Douglas Tuma Lib 14 2.7%
    Michael Roskey PFP 3 0.6%
    Updated: 11/8/2006 7:43 PM ET

    Amador - District 3 100.0% of 59 precincts reporting

    Candidate Party Vote Count % Votes Cast
    Dan Lungren (I)
    GOP 8,408 62.6%
    Bill Durston
    Dem 4,633 34.5%
    Douglas Tuma Lib 277 2.1%
    Michael Roskey PFP 121 0.9%
    Updated: 11/8/2006 7:43 PM ET

    Butte - District 2 100.0% of 139 precincts reporting

    Candidate Party Vote Count % Votes Cast
    Wally Herger (I)
    GOP 23,958 56.0%
    A. J. Sekhon
    Dem 17,053 39.9%
    E. Kent Hinesley Lib 1,743 4.1%
    Updated: 11/8/2006 7:43 PM ET

    Butte - District 4 100.0% of 36 precincts reporting

    Candidate Party Vote Count % Votes Cast
    John Doolittle (I)
    GOP 5,380 54.8%
    Charlie Brown
    Dem 3,830 39.0%
    Dan Warren Lib 605 6.2%
    Updated: 11/8/2006 7:43 PM ET

    Calaveras - District 3 100.0% of 30 precincts reporting

    Candidate Party Vote Count % Votes Cast
    Dan Lungren (I)
    GOP 9,092 60.4%
    Bill Durston
    Dem 5,332 35.4%
    Douglas Tuma Lib 392 2.6%
    Michael Roskey PFP 229 1.5%
    Updated: 11/8/2006 7:43 PM ET

    Colusa - District 2 100.0% of 17 precincts reporting

    Candidate Party Vote Count % Votes Cast
    Wally Herger (I)
    GOP 3,208 71.2%
    A. J. Sekhon
    Dem 1,211 26.9%
    E. Kent Hinesley Lib 87 1.9%
    Updated: 11/8/2006 7:43 PM ET

    Contra Costa - District 7 100.0% of 325 precincts reporting

    Candidate Party Vote Count % Votes Cast
    George Miller (I)
    Dem 60,515 86.2%
    Camden McConnell Lib 9,681 13.8%
    Updated: 11/8/2006 7:43 PM ET

    Contra Costa - District 10 100.0% of 566 precincts reporting

    Candidate Party Vote Count % Votes Cast
    Ellen Tauscher (I)
    Dem 78,029 68.2%
    Darcy Linn
    GOP 36,436 31.8%
    Updated: 11/8/2006 7:43 PM ET

    Contra Costa - District 11 100.0% of 141 precincts reporting

    Candidate Party Vote Count % Votes Cast
    Jerry McNerney
    Dem 22,853 54.0%
    Richard Pombo (I)
    GOP 19,459 46.0%
    Updated: 11/8/2006 7:43 PM ET

    Del Norte - District 1 90.0% of 20 precincts reporting

    Candidate Party Vote Count % Votes Cast
    Mike Thompson (I)
    Dem 3,439 57.1%
    John Jones
    GOP 2,398 39.8%
    Pamela Elizondo Grn 106 1.8%
    Timothy Stock PFP 85 1.4%
    Updated: 11/8/2006 7:43 PM ET

    El Dorado - District 4 100.0% of 150 precincts reporting

    Candidate Party Vote Count % Votes Cast
    John Doolittle (I)
    GOP 25,650 50.5%
    Charlie Brown
    Dem 22,582 44.4%
    Dan Warren Lib 2,590 5.1%
    Updated: 11/8/2006 7:43 PM ET

    Fresno - District 18 100.0% of 5 precincts reporting

    Candidate Party Vote Count % Votes Cast
    John Kanno
    GOP 317 56.7%
    Dennis Cardoza (I)
    Dem 242 43.3%
    Updated: 11/8/2006 7:43 PM ET

    Fresno - District 19 100.0% of 220 precincts reporting

    Candidate Party Vote Count % Votes Cast
    George Radanovich (I)
    GOP 28,106 58.7%
    TJ Cox
    Dem 19,783 41.3%
    Updated: 11/8/2006 7:43 PM ET

    Fresno - District 21 100.0% of 265 precincts reporting

    Candidate Party Vote Count % Votes Cast
    Devin Nunes (I)
    GOP 37,210 65.8%
    Steven Haze
    Dem 17,353 30.7%
    John Miller Grn 1,989 3.5%
    Updated: 11/8/2006 7:43 PM ET

    Glenn - District 2 100.0% of 33 precincts reporting

    Candidate Party Vote Count % Votes Cast
    Wally Herger (I)
    GOP 5,299 71.7%
    A. J. Sekhon
    Dem 1,915 25.9%
    E. Kent Hinesley Lib 178 2.4%
    Updated: 11/8/2006 7:43 PM ET

    Humboldt - District 1 100.0% of 152 precincts reporting

    Candidate Party Vote Count % Votes Cast
    Mike Thompson (I)
    Dem 26,617 65.8%
    John Jones
    GOP 11,910 29.4%
    Pamela Elizondo Grn 1,327 3.3%
    Timothy Stock PFP 611 1.5%
    Updated: 11/8/2006 7:43 PM ET

    Imperial - District 51 100.0% of 146 precincts reporting

    Candidate Party Vote Count % Votes Cast
    Bob Filner (I)
    Dem 11,338 66.5%
    Blake Miles
    GOP 5,270 30.9%
    Dan Litwin Lib 435 2.6%
    Updated: 11/8/2006 7:43 PM ET

    Inyo - District 25 100.0% of 27 precincts reporting

    Candidate Party Vote Count % Votes Cast
    Buck McKeon (I)
    GOP 3,244 61.3%
    Robert Rodriguez
    Dem 1,821 34.4%
    David Erickson Lib 225 4.3%
    Updated: 11/8/2006 7:43 PM ET

    Kern - District 22 100.0% of 442 precincts reporting

    Candidate Party Vote Count % Votes Cast
    Kevin McCarthy
    GOP 81,725 74.4%
    Sharon Beery
    Dem 28,059 25.6%
    Updated: 11/8/2006 7:43 PM ET

    Lake - District 1 100.0% of 52 precincts reporting

    Candidate Party Vote Count % Votes Cast
    Mike Thompson (I)
    Dem 9,546 62.8%
    John Jones
    GOP 4,959 32.6%
    Pamela Elizondo Grn 362 2.4%
    Timothy Stock PFP 335 2.2%
    Updated: 11/8/2006 7:43 PM ET

    Lassen - District 4 100.0% of 35 precincts reporting

    Candidate Party Vote Count % Votes Cast
    John Doolittle (I)
    GOP 4,546 60.1%
    Charlie Brown
    Dem 2,544 33.6%
    Dan Warren Lib 479 6.3%
    Updated: 11/8/2006 7:43 PM ET

    Los Angeles - District 22 100.0% of 42 precincts reporting

    Candidate Party Vote Count % Votes Cast
    Kevin McCarthy
    GOP 8,577 63.2%
    Sharon Beery
    Dem 5,001 36.8%
    Updated: 11/8/2006 7:43 PM ET

    Los Angeles - District 25 100.0% of 299 precincts reporting

    Candidate Party Vote Count % Votes Cast
    Buck McKeon (I)
    GOP 61,696 61.5%
    Robert Rodriguez
    Dem 34,403 34.3%
    David Erickson Lib 4,210 4.2%
    Updated: 11/8/2006 7:43 PM ET

    Los Angeles - District 26 100.0% of 271 precincts reporting

    Candidate Party Vote Count % Votes Cast
    David Dreier (I)
    GOP 59,108 57.0%
    Cynthia Matthews
    Dem 39,770 38.4%
    Ted Brown Lib 3,098 3.0%
    Elliott Graham AIP 1,646 1.6%
    Updated: 11/8/2006 7:43 PM ET

    Los Angeles - District 27 100.0% of 348 precincts reporting

    Candidate Party Vote Count % Votes Cast
    Brad Sherman (I)
    Dem 82,571 69.0%
    Peter Hankwitz
    GOP 37,163 31.0%
    Updated: 11/8/2006 7:43 PM ET

    Los Angeles - District 28 100.0% of 277 precincts reporting

    Candidate Party Vote Count % Votes Cast
    Howard Berman (I)
    Dem 70,560 74.0%
    Stanley Kesselman
    GOP 18,210 19.1%
    Byron De Lear Grn 3,340 3.5%
    Kelley Ross Lib 3,190 3.3%
    Updated: 11/8/2006 7:43 PM ET

    Los Angeles - District 29 100.0% of 369 precincts reporting

    Candidate Party Vote Count % Votes Cast
    Adam Schiff (I)
    Dem 79,001 63.6%
    William Bodell
    GOP 34,184 27.5%
    William Paparian Grn 6,821 5.5%
    Lynda Llamas PFP 2,244 1.8%
    Jim Keller Lib 1,933 1.6%
    Updated: 11/8/2006 7:43 PM ET

    Los Angeles - District 30 100.0% of 504 precincts reporting

    Candidate Party Vote Count % Votes Cast
    Henry Waxman (I)
    Dem 130,787 71.4%
    David Jones
    GOP 48,614 26.5%
    Adele Cannon PFP 3,895 2.1%
    Updated: 11/8/2006 7:43 PM ET

    Los Angeles - District 32 100.0% of 277 precincts reporting

    Candidate Party Vote Count % Votes Cast
    Hilda Solis (I)
    Dem 67,453 83.0%
    Leland Faegre Lib 13,824 17.0%
    Updated: 11/8/2006 7:43 PM ET

    Los Angeles - District 34 100.0% of 222 precincts reporting

    Candidate Party Vote Count % Votes Cast
    Lucille Roybal-Allard (I)
    Dem 50,961 76.9%
    Wayne Miller
    GOP 15,272 23.1%
    Updated: 11/8/2006 7:43 PM ET

    Los Angeles - District 35 100.0% of 295 precincts reporting

    Candidate Party Vote Count % Votes Cast
    Maxine Waters (I)
    Dem 72,114 83.7%
    Gordon Mego AIP 7,314 8.5%
    Paul Ireland Lib 6,761 7.8%
    Updated: 11/8/2006 7:43 PM ET



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  • chanduv23
    11-17 03:07 PM
    Chandu, did you get a chance to read this thread on RG's forums?

    http://immigration-information.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6461

    so atleast we can say that there is a different opinion exists among attorney's too, than one of that RK's.

    As mentioned in some of the above posts,

    1. PPL mentioned successful renewal of EAD while MTR was filed.
    2. PPL reported been able to continue working while 485 was in appeal due to invocation of 140 by previous employer after 180 days of 485.

    So, I am sure there is something that is mis-guiding us here. As suggested above, Do you think if sending an email to CIS ombudsman as an individual would help? or can we do it under IV's banner if that is more effective? Suggestions?

    desi - I am not sure how we do that but I personally think if we ask such a thing we are letting USCIS send us denial notice even though they must not send it.




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    09-10 05:11 PM
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  • bestin
    08-23 05:23 PM
    This is what i understand

    1.Advanced Degree-(where most of us fall into ) it is either masters or Bachelors+5 years

    2.Exceptional Ability- Assume a guy who has a diploma or a 3 year degree with some certifications.In a normal scenerio he would apply for EB3.But this opens up the scope for him to apply in EB2 also provided he satisfies a 10 year experience and any other stuff from the criteria below...

    Criteria
    Official academic record showing that you have a degree, diploma, certificate, or similar award from a college, university, school, or other institution of learning relating to your area of exceptional ability
    Letters documenting at least 10 years of full-time experience in your occupation
    A license to practice your profession or certification for your profession or occupation
    Evidence that you have commanded a salary or other remuneration for services that demonstrates your exceptional ability
    Membership in a professional association(s)
    Recognition for your achievements and significant contributions to your industry or field by your peers, government entities, professional or business organizations
    Other comparable evidence of eligibility is also acceptable.




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  • lonedesi
    08-05 05:04 PM
    If you are one of those who has been waiting for I-140 approvals at TSC or NSC, please join this campaign. Please post a comment on this thread after you have mailed the letter & Form 7001.



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  • villamonte6100
    04-01 02:49 PM
    C�mon boy I�m not asking to make Steve miller their VP operation and use that million dollar in grants to fund that project. What I�m asking is �can you tell us how many applications you received of which chargeability and in which EB categories� and assurance that they will issue EADs and APs in less than 90 days. To ask this you don�t need citizen rights you are asking a public agency a service which they are supposed to provide and they are charging us to do that�

    There is a simple answer your question.

    Why don't you write a letter to USCIS and outline every question you want answered.

    And Please let us know what they say.




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  • sweet23guyin
    07-18 03:29 PM
    Great.. Thank you.. Please ask your neighbours to join IV i they have not yet.

    I never mailed all my contacts at a time in my 10years of email life!

    IV made me to do :)



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  • gcdreamer05
    02-09 08:56 PM
    dude this year you meant march and apr 2009 right, your post still says 2008...

    And plz give me a break just now the march bulletin came out and already we have started predicting april bulletin...

    we all have become lazy just predicting and sitting not doing anything that is why the freakin EB3 has not moved even 1 day for the past 2 months......

    we have to do something......




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  • amitps
    09-09 07:13 PM
    Hello All,

    My prayers be with IV. Though I cant attend, I would want to make a contribution of $200 for the rally. Can somebody let me know an easy way to make this payment please? I dont have a paypal, googlr acct.

    Thanks
    regards
    arghya
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    You do not need to have a paypal account, you can pay using Mastercard, Visa. Please let me know if you need more help - amitps@hotmail.com



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  • ivgoodluck
    09-13 08:07 PM
    I made my first time $100 contribution

    Order Details - Sep 13, 2007 8:26 PM EDT
    Google Order #573069996350097

    Thank you IV for all your efforts. Keep up the good work.

    Thanks
    Subbbaiah




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  • GCScrewed
    08-16 09:21 AM
    This just dawned on me. They are supposed to following the current law of per country limit first before distributing it. But how come all the EB3 countries are not available while they are distributing "extra" visas to overscribed countries? Countries like Iceland should always be current as they do not have a lot of EB immigrants. So you would excpect that at least some countries still have EB3 visas. However, it is not the case.

    The purpose is to demonstrate that they do not have a process to follow the law. They screwed up before and they are screwing up again now. There have been other facts about their mismanagement that can be used to make the case. Therefore, they should compensate people who have been here patiently waiting with good faith... one way is to speed up processing cases pending for more than 5 years.



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  • mhathi
    03-22 05:28 PM
    I have been a monthly contributor ($50/month) since December 2007. Already sent mail about a week ago to info at immigratin voice dot org.

    Waiting for access... Glad to help in any way I can. I like the idea of having a donor forum. I have seen too many of our posts wind up on the pages of anti-legal immigrant groups over the years.




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  • eb3_nepa
    12-18 02:35 PM
    We have to differentiate ourselves from the illegals. Let the illegals do Rallies, Huger strikes etc.

    I agree. All this Gandhigiri is not going to do anything. Guys lets just stick with lobbying and reduce what we ask for like I mentioned on another thread. As long as everyone gets SOME benefit we should be good.

    Too much of these fasts and rallies is going to do just one thing, it will send a powerful message of the WRONG kind to the American people that "First they come on temporary work visas, then they forcefully demand Permanent residency". It will affect us even more when we go back for visa interviews and also new people coming here will have problems. Also, unfortunate but true, IV is still viewed as an organization For the Indians, By the Indians, even though this is Not true at all. If you add the whole Gandhigiri aspect to it, it will only add more fuel to the hate fire that most anti-immigrants now have against some of us Indians.

    By all means let us send a card every week to the Senators and Congressmen asking for help. A nice personalized card to each one of them EVERY week. Other than that let us PLEASE not entertain thoughts of "non-co-operation" and "Hunger Strikes". Let us remember Gandhiji was fighting to get OUR OWN country back from the FOREIGN British Rule. However we are in ANOTHER country BY OUR OWN WILL! Now we cannot start protesting and fighting that "Give us our GC or we will strike". Please get rid of these self destructive ideas.



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  • susie
    07-07 01:32 AM
    Please, please update when you get any news.

    I have a very dicey situation with my son, who is turning 21 in January 2008.

    Good luck for the outcome!


    Hi

    Case filed end March 07 at Tampa mid district. They had 60days to respond , so by end May 07 should have heard

    Just before end May 07 they asked for another 30days and as a professional curtesy my attorney agreed, so should have heard by end June 07

    Just before end June the Attorney General's legal department called my attorney and asked yet again for another 30days !!! as my case paperwork with them was very thin (whatever that means) Their attorney stated on the phone they would like to resolve, again whatever that is supposed to mean

    Apparently Geoff Gorsky has not replied to his own attorney ! so their attorney has asked for all and any evidence we have on CSPA case.

    Today 6th July 07 I drove from Orlando to Tampa to hand deliver my case file, but my attorney has stated they will not be allowed more extra time as we will be at 120 days wait at end of July 07

    The CSPA is badly written and needs leglislative fix, Myself and another member have written our own draft amendment for legislation to protect all children from aging out. This has beed passed to Dave Weldon's office and in turn passed to his legislators, so will see what happens

    I will update you all as if I win my case could well assist many others if they are advised their child has aged out. If you wish to support our efforts please join www.expatsvoice.org




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  • vactorboy29
    03-06 04:30 PM
    I saw LUD on our both applications on 04/05 and 04/06 .I think at least they are shuffling through Piles of application.




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  • arnab221
    06-20 10:45 AM
    Delays at DOL PERM Processing Center in Atlanta to End Soon!
    Posted May 11, 2007
    �MurthyDotCom
    A number of inquiries have come to us regarding delays in PERM labor certification case adjudication. Beginning early in 2007, there has been a noticeable slowing in case processing at the U.S. Department of Labor (DOL) Atlanta Processing Center. This center is one of two locations where PERM labor certifications are adjudicated. The other location is in Chicago. This slow-down is a marked change from the generally fast PERM labor certification decisions that had become the norm.
    �MurthyDotCom
    Personnel Reassigned to H2B Cases
    �MurthyDotCom
    We at the Murthy Law Firm made inquiry about this matter, to gain some insight into why things had changed, and, of course, to determine how the situation might be improved. We were advised that personnel temporarily had been reallocated away from the PERM cases. The Atlanta Processing Center also processes temporary labor certifications needed in H2B cases. Due to demand and time constraints, personnel were diverted to work on the temporary labor certifications, which meant delays in the PERM labor certifications.
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    Changes Expected in the Near Future
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    Our sources indicate that the DOL adjudicators in Atlanta will be moved back to their regular responsibilities of processing PERM cases in the near future. Thus, PERM cases there should start moving again soon.


    SKY,
    I am in the same scenario as you since my firm is headquarted in NY . Can you check with your attorney about the processiing times they are seeing for labors filed with the Atlanta processing center . My law firm says that the processing times are more or less the same for Atlanta and Chicago .




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    eb3_nepa
    12-18 02:35 PM
    We have to differentiate ourselves from the illegals. Let the illegals do Rallies, Huger strikes etc.

    I agree. All this Gandhigiri is not going to do anything. Guys lets just stick with lobbying and reduce what we ask for like I mentioned on another thread. As long as everyone gets SOME benefit we should be good.

    Too much of these fasts and rallies is going to do just one thing, it will send a powerful message of the WRONG kind to the American people that "First they come on temporary work visas, then they forcefully demand Permanent residency". It will affect us even more when we go back for visa interviews and also new people coming here will have problems. Also, unfortunate but true, IV is still viewed as an organization For the Indians, By the Indians, even though this is Not true at all. If you add the whole Gandhigiri aspect to it, it will only add more fuel to the hate fire that most anti-immigrants now have against some of us Indians.

    By all means let us send a card every week to the Senators and Congressmen asking for help. A nice personalized card to each one of them EVERY week. Other than that let us PLEASE not entertain thoughts of "non-co-operation" and "Hunger Strikes". Let us remember Gandhiji was fighting to get OUR OWN country back from the FOREIGN British Rule. However we are in ANOTHER country BY OUR OWN WILL! Now we cannot start protesting and fighting that "Give us our GC or we will strike". Please get rid of these self destructive ideas.



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